------------------------------------------ VOLUME 70, sent April 27, 1997 Topics in this issue: 1. "JUNCTION 7" CONTEST 2. Welcome to the Canteen, boy... 3. HA!!!!! Another Rolling Stoney...... 4. Thanks for answering 5. Dave Mason The Lone Star 6. Re: VH-1/Nostalgia/Business 7. Re: "It's Like You Never Left" 8. How I started and more 9. Re: (SP 68) Winwood UK Dates 10. Re: Aaron Price and Rick Kilcoyne- young fans! 11. Re: Jim Capaldi ------------------------------------------ 1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1 From: "Les Jacobson"
(with approval and additions from BobbieG) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 14:21:52 -0500 Subject: "JUNCTION 7" CONTEST ANNOUNCING A J7 CONTEST: First person to hear a cut from the new album on the radio and post the news to BobbieG wins a ....whatever. Valuable Prize to be determined later. Maybe a tee-shirt (if you don't have one yet), maybe a bootleg, maybe ... Contest rules: 1) Honor system in effect 2) Winner will be the first post-er, as determined by the date-stamp on the email header. 3) Please tell us which cut from the album you heard; the date and time you heard it, the city and country, the station call-letters and format, as well as any DJ commentary. We'd also love to hear your reaction! Les 2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2 From: "Elena Iglio" Subject: Welcome to the Canteen, boy... Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 04:56:52 +0200 I am a very old Traffic and Steve buff, 25 years of Winwood faith this year, but I also love Alice in Chains, Trent Reznor, Bjork, Stone Temple Pilots and can even stand Prodigy, so you don't have to feel in "awe", in fact when the music's good you will always recognize it whenever it has been written or performed. As for Traffic, do start with their 2nd album, self-titled "Traffic" it is very simple, fresh and catchy, there is everything from rock to blues/jazz to folk to country influences, including 40.000 Headmen which you will have heard performed by 1994 Traffic.... You can't miss "Back in the High Life" as for Winwood solo efforts, it is not too far from Roll with It, only less bluesy and with better lyrics. BTW I'm only 38, not 70!!! Love from Ellie 3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3 From: "Elena Iglio" Subject: HA!!!!! Another Rolling Stoney...... Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 05:17:26 +0200 Steve is a Performer and a Musician, not a lyric writer, and if "angst" can be expressed in other ways than lyrics, HAVE YOU EVER TRIED TO LISTEN TO STEVE'S RENDITION OF "BLIND MAN" (Last Exit), "SHANGAI NOODLE FACTORY" (same), "NO TIME TO LIVE" (Traffic), or "FREEDOM RIDER" (John Barleycorn Must Die), for instance? I read once in a review in a 1977 Melody Maker (Arc of a Diver) that Steve can "recite from the phone book and win converts". And have you ever DUG the sense of impotence and frustration hidden in the sweet folky lyrics (Steve's own) to CAN'T FIND MY WAY HOME? Well, if somebody who wrote "Low Spark of High Heeled Boys" or wrote the music and sang just only these very songs hasn't got the right to enter the Hall of Fame, who should? Dolores O'Riordan? Bono? But you Rolling Stoneys are a lost cause. We're in 1997 and you still "can't get no satisfaction". If you knew what ANGST is you should understand why Jagger and Richards would never and did never write songs like TIME (David Bowie); YER BLUES (John Lennon); I HATE MYSELF AND I WANT TO DIE (Nirvana); HOWEVER MUCH I BOOZE and the whole QUADROPHENIA (the Who) or "DIRT" (Alice in Chains). I quoted all the artists - old and new - because I have doubts on your musical culture. Forgive me for my harsh tone - usually I don't get THAT angry - but the word "whining" was what set me on fire. I always thought, and sign my opinion, that the Stones will be forgotten or only remembered as a cultural phenomenon as opposed to the Beatles. The Beatles and Traffic will still be remembered in the future as True Musicians. Ellie 4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4 From: "Elena Iglio" Subject: Thanks for answering Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 08:56:54 +0200 Les, thanks for answering my question. It was indeed interesting and psychologically interesting to see from where we all started. I got hooked to Steve by listening him singing Captain Walker in Tommy's Opera rendition in 1972, I simply loved the way he sang, and sought after who he was. Then Traffic blew me away, especially The Magic Flute of Chris, my favourite. I don't think Capaldi's lyric prevented Steve from reaching more recognition. They were naive, simple, very hippy, some could be irritating, I agreed with a journalist when he said that "Memories of a rock'n' rolla" could have touched a few raw nerves in the unemployment offices (a country house and 60 acres are a heavy load) But I would forgive everything to the Man who wrote No face and The Low Spark and NO TIME TO LIVE and Coloured Rain and.... do you agree? Was Will Jennings any good at all with his soppy platitudes? Maybe Vivian Stanshall in his madness was eligible, but (other disagreement with you) I found "Eagle" is more depressing and depressed Traffic album then "angst" - I didn't appreciate the Stoney intervention at all - (like Chris said in an interview in 1974) because of pressure on the band about the recording studio booking. OH LORD MY LORD is not a Winwood song but the last track on SOME COME RUNNING, Capaldi's album of 1988. It shows you don't like old Jim. I can assure you he's a fantastic chap and his vocals were more personal than Dave Mason's, if anything, when you have Winwood in the Band. I personally think Barleycorn's first side can be too much to Techno, Aaron.... Better "Traffic" first... Ellie Excuse my English, I'm rather tired 5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5 From: "Elena Iglio" Subject: Dave Mason The Lone Star Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 09:19:15 +0200 Steve, I appreciate you being a Mason fan and defending him. He was most certainly a founder member of Traffic but not certainly the one who started the whole thing. He was a Spencer Davis Group roadie who jammed with Winwood after their all-nighters and most probably the idea came from Winwood who was tired of mimicking RnB and who already knew Chris Wood and Jim Capaldi by jamming with them in the Elbow Room club. He roped them all in, including Dave the Roadie who jumped at the chance and probably his being unaccustomed to success caused his "I'm Mr. Hole In My Shoe" syndrome. Afterwards he developed a good solo career and wrote quite good songs, but his contribution to Traffic, with two or three exceptions called "Feeling Alright", "Crying to be heard" and "Vagabond Virgin", wasn't aimed at the development of creativity and experimenting but rather to the Pop Commercial Market Success (trendy fairy-tale songs and sitar - So Cool in the 60's). Mason was always a loner, had a difficult temper and always split up with almost everyone he worked with, because of his addiction problems, also. I know many artists who have had ego problems (e.g. David Bowie) with being struck and smothered by early success, but didn't carry their blown egos wherever they went. Pity for him, it could have been different if he had learned more Humility and showed more "esprit de corps". Mind you, I love his guitar and songwriting (even if less female choirs and plain ballads would have done him a favour), but I reckon much more was to be expected from such a big ego..... No offense Ellie 6*6*6*6*6*6*6*6*6*6*6*6*6 From: "Fischler, Sol (NBC)" Subject: Re: VH-1/Nostalgia/Business Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:58:00 -0400 Scott wrote: "What self-respecting band of today or in a 1960's scenario would actually appear on the unhip, out-of-touch, oldies hits channel VH1? VH1 isn't about music, it's about business and nostalgia, and (no offense to Steve) so was the Honors concert. The best bands out there today are probably the ones that aren't making any videos at all." I don't know, Scott, but I seem to remember watching The Ed Sullivan Show (unhip) with my grandmother (out of touch) and seeing the likes of the Beatles, the Doors, etc. etc. I will agree with you that VH1 is about business, but isn't everything nowadays? And about nostalgia? The audience they cater to is an "older" generation (Lord forgive me the label) and quite frankly, I've about had it with spring break, rap, singled out game shows, and all the other '90's twenty-something attractions that MTV treats me to. The special last week called "American Beauty", about the Dead and that album, was a wonderful piece of rock & roll filmmaking, and my hat's off to VH1 for it, "Storytellers", and all the other shows they air which prove that more than just a little thought went into the music that I respected growing up. Who was it last issue who said most of today's music seems to be about whining? Amen, and I'll take an outlet for "intelligent" music anywhere I can get it. And by the way, didn't John & Yoko HOST a week of Mike Douglas? How unhip was that? Right. And don't get me started on the topic of videos... That's it ... time to kiss the kids and play some nostalgic music from the '60's... -- Sol 7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7 From: SayOnceMor@aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 21:15:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: "It's Like You Never Left" In a message dated 97-04-23 11:37:09 EDT, Sol wrote: > And while going through the racks at HMV recently, I saw a CD by > Mason called "It's Like You Never Left" ( or something like that) > -- dated 1995 with all sorts of great players -- Graham, Nash, > Radle, Keltner, Stevie Wonder etc... Is this a "new" album or a > "greatest hits" collection. It's an old album. I've got the LP right here in my hand, dated 1973. Andrea 8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8 Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 13:09:38 +0300 (EET DST) From: Berkin Altinok Subject: How I started and more Well, everybody, i am 23 at the moment, i discovered Steve and his music with "Roll with it", so I am a member of the next generation fans, when I landed on the States back in 1990, i began collecting everything i could find, that evolved into being a Huge "Traffic fan", so i feel that i am fully equipped to absorb all of his music, and enjoy each and everyone of them, with the help of Steve's music, i started collecting his sessions that enabled me to know different musicians. Believe me , it is very hard to collect stuff here in Turkey, so i am very thankful to Bobbie and all of you in SP for making my dreams come true. To let Les know " Oh lord Why Lord" is from the 1988 album of Capaldi called "some come running", i put it in the list because of a personal matter really, means a lot to me, and an incredible song too, Clapton delivers a very vigorous solo, accompanied by the rhythm guitar from G. Harrison. (It is an excellent album) About the dispute on the Canteen, i have to say that i have both the European and the US version of the album, the European version has the lyrics in it as well as a smaller size of the same photos, i totally agree with Ellie that Traffic were always the "big three" - they were the core members, i would also include Dave as a member too, since there is a slight difference between a core member and a member, (Dave was in and out like a fiddlers elbow) , also I think Ellie notes the fact that Gordon killed his mother, this is true, also he happens to be the richest guy in a nut house. (naturally due to Layla) One final comment on what Scott had written, saying the best bands are the ones who are not being commercial , this is absolutely correct, i myself get excited when Paul Rodgers, or Alvin Lee , or Mike Scott (of the Waterboys) records something,, sorry for keeping it a little long.... Berkin 9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9 From: MHargre586@aol.com Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 12:33:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: (SP 68) Winwood UK Dates I've booked to see Winwood next Thursday in Birmingham! Can't wait! Mike. 10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10*10 From: MomeyKate@aol.com Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 15:25:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Aaron Price and Rick Kilcoyne- young fans! Thanks again, Bobbie, and SP "post-ers" for a great read! I would especially like to comment on the posts from Aaron Price-"A young Winwood fan" (#11, volume 68) asking what Traffic /earlier SW album he should try first, and on the post from Rick Kilcoyne (#5, volume 69). It's great to hear from 20+year old fans of Steve! Shows individuality on their part- speaks well of them! I agree with Rick, John Barleycorn Must Die is the one I would suggest Aaron try. And Arc of a Diver, of course. And Aaron, how about some Spencer Davis Group? I don't know if you like R&B, but these earliest recordings by SW show how talented he was at such an early age (like Kid Jonny Lang currently). As long as I'm commenting on younger fans and discovering Winwood music, I might as well add how I "met" Winwood: I was 33 years old, a new mom, with a teenage babysitter staying with us for a couple of weeks. She had MTV on quite a bit. "Freedom Overspill" was in heavy rotation, and I thought it was a great song, and the singer was too handsome to be believed. (Oh well, I admit to some superficiality) When SW came to St. Paul in 1988 for an outdoor concert, 35,000 people including me waited in the rain for him. He canceled that evening's performance (electrical hazard) and rescheduled for next day. I was barely able to get there the next day, but I'm glad I did! Steve came on stage with no announcement, grinning in sunglasses, looking 25 years old instead of forty, and opened with "Freedom Overspill". He proceeded to show all of us what a talented and versatile musician he was. I couldn't believe what I had been missing for 25 years! And what a joyful musical journey it has been discovering SDG, Traffic, Blind Faith and Steve Winwood music! Congratulations to Aaron and Rick and other younger fans for their great taste in music and musicians! 11*11*11*11*11*11*11*11*11 From: "Angie" Subject: Re: Jim Capaldi Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 13:54:29 -0400 Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I respect that. Now I'd like to take issue with Les on his comments about Jim Capaldi. 1. Les states that Jim's lyrics are banal if not outright insipid. Jim's lyrics are not dull, tasteless, commonplace or trivial. (translation of banal & insipid) Jim writes beautiful lyrics. His lyrics reflect both heart and soul. You can't get any better than that. He is one of the hardest-working and most dedicate people in the business today. In a way Jim and Steve are opposites and that is a plus because they compliment each other. Really, Les, I think Steve himself would take issue with that one. 2. Steve doesn't get the credit he deserves because of lack of a good lyric partner. Most of the songs Jim & Steve did together were hits. Steve is very respected in the business and as far as the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, Steve will not be eligible until 2002 and you can't blame that on Jim. I am pleased to announce that 'Traffic' will be part of the "I Want To Take You Higher" exhibit at the R&RHOF which open May 10th, 1997 and runs until February 28th, 1988. Angie ------------------------------------------ END OF SMILING PHASES, VOL 70