------------------------------------------ VOLUME 45, sent December 2, 1996 Topics in this issue: 1. Another Newbie coming aboard 2. Winwood and Nile Rodgers 3. Spencer Davis Group Variations 4. Dave Mason & Traffic 5. CD Releases 6. More thoughts 7. Traffic texts 8. Re: CD Releases (Review) 9. List housekeeping ------------------------------------------ 1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1*1 From: "Fischler, Sol (NBC)"
Subject: Another Newbie coming aboard Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 11:38:00 -0500 Hello everyone. Please allow me to introduce myself... Oops, sorry. This is the Winwood page, not the Stones. I just turned 40, and the mind is going. In any event, here I am walking the streets of New York thinking I'm really hot stuff because I have They Call It An Accident, GO, GO Live, and Aiye Keta, and one day I'm surfing the net and I find the Winwood home page, and you guys are discussing the nuances of different versions on different sides etc. etc., and I'm left in the dust. My hat's off to you all, and I'm glad to get onboard! (No, we're NOT all bozos on this bus...) It seems the official initiation is the calling of the top 5, so here goes, with no real surprises: Dear Mr. Fantasy -- Canteen version Dear Mr. Fantasy -- Studio Low Spark... -- strictly studio Empty Pages Actually, fifth place is a tie, with too many songs to list... Okay, then -- a few random thoughts based on past issues of SP. (And bear in mind, I've only made it through issues 1-25, so if anything sounds painfully obvious, repetitive, or stupid, please forgive me). First of all, "Shouldn't Have Took More Than You Gave" is a Dave Mason song, appearing on any number of his greatest hits albums, but I forget which original album it was on -- somebody help me out here. (But the best version is the "Canteen" version.) Another cover of "Dear Mr. Fantasy" appears on "The Live Adventures of Mike Bloomfield and Al Kooper", (the one with the Norman Rockwell album cover), recorded Sept. 1968. If memory serves, it segues at one point into a short instrumental treatment of "Hey, Jude" before going back for the last verse. If anyone else refers to "those cute musical pieces between the songs" on the American "Mr. Fantasy" album without realizing that it's pieces of "Here We Go Round the Mulberry Bush", I'll scream. My daughter, who is seven, knows the words to Feelin' Alright, Can't Find My Way Home, Dear Mr. Fantasy, and is particularly partial to You Can All Join In. (My son, three, prefers The Dead. That's cool). With respects to Jim Capaldi, (and a huge old Bronx cheer to Ginger), the best rock & roll drummer in the business, bar none, was Jim Gordon. There will be NO debate on this. (And believe me, I've seen how you guys can butcher a debate -- in spite of strong feelings of my own, I don't dare enter that Phil Collins/Billy Joel thing. At least, not at this time. I usually wait until at least the second date before pissing off 250+ people at once...) Well, that's it for now. My wife is begging me to come to bed, and she doesn't understand this whole Internet/E-mail thing anyway. (But she does love Traffic, and her birthday is May 13th, the day after Stevie's. You just got to love a woman like that...) -- Sol 2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2 Subj: Winwood and Nile Rodgers Date: 96-11-10 00:21:27 EST From: Stevsmith1@aol.com I recently heard that Winwood was recording with Nile Rodgers sometime in the last 2 or 3 months. Perhaps they decided to work together after their stint in Japan, especially in light of Bernard Edwards' passing. Anyone know more about this? 3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3 Subj: Spencer Davis Group Variations Date: 96-11-10 00:39:18 EST From: Stevsmith1@aol.com In Volume 39, Javier Garcia asked about differences in Spencer Davis Group songs on a compilation he'd bought. These included two that I hadn't noticed before, so I checked out my SDG material to see just where they've popped up. It turns out that the differences relate to separate releases for the UK and US markets, which mostly continue up through the currently available compilations. Those compilations are Island's _Eight Gigs A Week_ (1996) in the UK and EMI's _The Best Of The SDG_ (1987) in the US. The most commonly known variations are the UK and US versions of "Gimme Some Lovin'". Producer Jimmy Miller reworked the track for a bigger, more engaging sound for the US market. Oddly, the original UK version is as notable for its haunting starkness as the US version is for its frenetic don't-stop-me-now / get-down- and-dirty / let-it-all-hang-out energy. (Yes - I love that track!) Most compilations have included the US version, but _Eight Gigs A Week_ has the UK version. The variations of "Somebody Help Me" aren't quite as simple. One version has backing and solo guitar, while the other uses organ instead. Interestingly, the original UA single in the US was the organ version, while the US and UK studio albums both included the guitar version. Most compilations have used tighter guitar version, which has long been one of my favorite SDG tracks. The organ version is currently available on the EMI collection in the US. The two other songs mentioned by Javier are "Searchin'" and "Stevie's Blues", which have added backing organ for the US versions. Winwood basically noodles around on these organ tracks, but it's very effective and adds musically to the song. The distinction between the UK and US markets has been maintained for these two songs from the original studio albums and later compilations all the way through to the currently available compilations. The UK Island collection has both songs without the organ, and the US EMI disc has them with organ. The practice of releasing songs in different forms for different markets seems to have been common in the 1960s. Three of these four tracks have the common trait of a bigger sound for the US market, presumably reflecting record company perceptions about American taste. The reason for continued segregation of some of these tracks across the Atlantic mystifies me. However, it sounds like Javier bought the EMI collection in Spain, so it must have been released there as well. Does anyone know of other SDG variations? I noticed two other interesting things while checking on those last two tracks. First, no Spencer Davis Group (with Winwood) album, studio or compilation, has been released in both the US and UK! _Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush_ (1968) was released in both countries, but it's a "various artists" soundtrack on which Steve played with Traffic and one song with SDG ("Waltz For Caroline"). Second, no Spencer Davis Group material has been released in true stereo! Even the original studio albums show no difference between the mono and stereo versions. Many compilations have been prominently labeled as stereo, and while the pressing may actually have been stereo, the source was still mono. Some used (added?) reverb or something in the left and right channels for the illusion of stereo. One German compilation from 1975 was "electronically re-processed" for stereo, although the cover doesn't admit it, resulting in the sonic equivalent of "SDG meets Picasso" - musically distorted. (Oooooo, dig that cheesy '70s technology!) The one true stereo track I found was Spencer Davis Rhythm & Blues Quartet's "Mean Old Frisco" on _History of British Blues_ (1973). The track was recorded in 1963 or 1964, and may have been remixed from mono specifically for that LP. Any exceptions to these two observations? Please let us know! 4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4*4 From: "Stephen MacDougall" (firstname.lastname@example.org) Subject: Dave Mason & Traffic Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:07:10 -0500 Hello all, I was surfing the web, searching for information for my Dave Mason web page, and found some interesting information on Dave Mason and Traffic at http://bspaa.com/artist/DaveMason/Mason1.html This article was talking about Dave Mason's upcoming live album, which will have Dave's version of Dear Mr. Fantasy, and said something quite interesting: "This "live" album is expected to be complete for release in the near future and word has it, there is even talk of a Traffic Reunion with Dave. As you may remember during the last Traffic reunion, Dave was touring with Fleetwood Mac. This "live" concert event may feature celebrity guest performances by Dave Mason & friends! Word has it, Dave will be inviting many special artist/friends to take part in this concert/jam session." What's everyone's take on this? Steve MacDougall http://members.aol.com/smacdoug 5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5 From: MHargre586@aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 08:26:19 -0500 Subject: CD Releases Yesterday, 14th November 1996, I received my copies of the following CD reissues : Jim Capaldi - Oh How We Danced (Edsel EDCD 502) Jim Capaldi - Whale Meat Again (Edsel EDCD 503) Jim Capaldi - Short Cut Draw Blood (Edsel EDCD 504) The CD of Aiye-Keta by "The Third World" (Edsel EDCD 513) will be released in January 1997. Now let's all call Trevor Wyatt at Island in London to speed up the release of GO. Mike Hargreaves. 6*6*6*6*6*6*6*6*6*6*6*6*6 From: "Fischler, Sol (NBC)" Subject: More thoughts Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:10:00 -0500 Well, I made it through all the past issues, so I'm all caught up. That said, more random notes. First of all, reading about everyone's books, memorabilia etc. got me to go through my own vaults, -- you know, the boxes I packed when we moved 6 years ago and marked "open me first", and haven't seen the light of day since. That, and I just wasn't buying the "furry dog" theory on the Mr. Fantasy discussion. So I found my copy of "Stevie Winwood & Friends...", the book mentioned by Terry back in April (by the way, my copy isn't from Collier Books, it's from a small publishing company I've never heard of called Music Sales Corp., also 1970). In it is, verbatim, the explanation Dan provided this past August, from a 69 Rolling Stone article & interview, regarding Capaldi's drawing and the scribbled lyrics. In the book, there is a quote that precedes it that provides a little additional insight: "It (Mr. Fantasy) was done on impulse with practically nothing worked out, because it was almost jammed. The initial spirit of the whole thing was captured on record -- which is very rare. That was one of the things, because it is not specifically an outstanding melody or an outstanding chord sequence or anything. It's basically quite simple. They're very simple lyrics and they're repeated three times." So that's the story I'm going with (but one of these days I WILL hold a mirror up to the logo... just in case). Which brings me to an issue of Trouser Press from Jan. 78, where Winwood & Traffic were the cover story. Reading it again, it seems a rather full history, and includes a story behind the logo: ...According to Steve, it was the creation of a lady called Carol Ruskin and the band adopted it because they liked it and there was really nothing more to it than that. A simple explanation that could be true, however a few facts should be pointed out. Among other things it's a Celtic representation of the Wheel of Fortune (something which crops up in several songs including No Time To Live and Dealer) and it's also connected with the Hindu swastika, the three legged Isle of Man design and is later to be found on Irish crosses. Also Myrrdin, later to metamorphose into Merlin, the councilor and magician of medieval Arthurian fantasy claims the symbol. So another pattern emerges; evidence of Traffic's folkloric passions... The writer seems to have done his homework; however, on the same page are two pictures with the caption 'Chris Wood then and now' -- but the second picture clearly is Rick Grech. Next post maybe I'll get into my doubts re: the reliability of biographical and historical articles. This post comes from a friend of mine for all interested: In 1974 Muff Winwood Produced "Kimono My House" by Sparks. Info can be found at: http://www.skynet.co.uk:80/doremi/sparks/sparks3.html One major bummer about going through SP volumes from last year is that many E-mail addresses etc. are gone. (Somebody shoot me before I get too philosophical...) I was especially excited to read about VIDEO CRAZED PEOPLE and their rare videos, and tried to contact them, only to find they were gone. Anybody know if they resurfaced, or of a similar video service? Went through my archives again and found a Bonnie Bramlett album on Capricorn from 1978 called Memories. On it is a cover of Can't Find My Way Home -- and the credit for the song is listed as STEPHEN WINWOOD. Is this his real, formal name, or just another example of stupidity? And finally, a question haunting me for 20-odd years now: In Dear Mr. Fantasy, what are the words Steve mumbles after the third verse, before the last musical break? Anybody?? (And please, no "I bury Paul" theories...) -- Sol [I know the answer to at least one of these questions, so will jump in here, Sol. SW is indeed Stephen, not Steven. His middle name is Lawrence. --BG] 7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7*7 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 16:21:32 +0100 From: Jan Inge Sommerseth Subject: Traffic texts Greetings from Norway, Attached are the texts for some Traffic tunes, I am not capable to finish them. Can any of Smiling Phases readers fill in the missing words? Maybe I got something wrong too, please try to help me out. Capaldi & Mason & Wood No time to waste when you need such a laugh Push you in to the good things you got People keep saying: You look very rough Means that your clothes just don't look good enough Tricked by the grannies, when life feels slow ??? Putting it on, where ever you go All over town people putting you down Drive you out of your mind, how could I be so blind Don't speak to soon if I never come out Hiding yourself, and your not coming ----- ??? Closing your ears to the whispering sounds remembering when, you are one of the clowns Hey, no time to waste when you need such a laugh Push your way, to the good things in life Evening Blue -- Sitting all alone by the fireside Listen to the wind in the chimney top Haven't slept for days, and I'm still wide eyed Try not to think, but my mind won't stop Evening shadows making my heart sing out With the setting sun, turning leaves to ________ (brown ?) If I had a lover, who's heart was true I wouldn't be alone in this evening blue Everybody's looking for something in life not everyone's finds what they're looking for Everybody wants a little happiness in life But everyone can open the door Morning wakens, making my heart sing out Now that summer's here, changing for some _________ (doubt ?) Roll Right Stones -- Till I find out, where will I go, where will I go I don't know, I don't know, I don't know where The spaces between my eyes Open up the heavenly sky _______ _______ ________ pearly gate Those who've been mesmerised Many years has come and gone Went to see the standing stone Summing circle, summer love Ancient born and weather torn They kill me too, my very ______ Many a thing could be seen In quiet places, feel so _______ (green ?) _______________________________ But the only things that remains are the roll right stones Space age before my eyes Opening up the skies _______ _______ ________ pearly gate For those who've been mesmerized Many years has come and gone But progress marches slowly on And nature's think she has to stay Course everybody is going insane The only, the only thing that will sustain are the roll right stones Went to see an ancient man People buried underground Long ago, will never know What it was like to hear their sounds _______ ______ know you've been here (back over ?) You see the sights of yesterday You still _____ the _____ _____ But the only thing that remains are the roll right stones Utterly Simple -- Everything really is stupidly simple And yet all around is utter confusion Fairy tales written they ________ to see it Do you understand the _____ _____ __ Alice We fit our lives into regular patterns All that we really know is that we're really living The man who makes the world his wisdom seeks to know his mind Knowing where his feet should walk and when he should or should not talk and how a friend to find Don't look around to find the (sand / soul ?) that is right beneath your feet The (harman?) sits inside his cave, and seeks to know his mind Staring into empty space and seeing things in peoples faces others cannot find Don't look around to find the _____ that is right beneath your feet You've nothing to hide so why try to hide it I know there are someone that's screwed up inside If you need a reason for all this I'm singing It's simpleness really that gives it it's meaning Hope I Never Find Me There -- Seems that I just had to stay The birds are flown the sky turned gray The bees are baffled by the flower Plastic plants who never die Hope they never find me here I walked upon synthetic grass Where metal people _____ ___ ______ About the fields where you once played Atomic factories have a place there Hope they never find me here _________________ (Possar raiders lost a shoe) _________________ (where the picture bumps are dry) The car I drive is built of _____ The blacksmiths trade is dying The mills are _____ of 22 of ______ ______ ______ The hour's come to be as one The time to _____ has just begun The world is waiting , it's a fact To stage this last and final act Hope I never find me here House For Everyone -- My bed is made of candy floss The house is made of cheese It's lit by lots of glow worms If I'm wrong correct me please The village is a pop up book The people wouldn't ____ (doze?) The roads are made from tree cut Think it's time I moved on I bought myself a walnut _____ (cheer ?) The journey will be long So I filled the whole With peppermints and creamy things from Mars I sailed away for 15 days It never once got dark And came upon two large houses set out in a park On the door on one was truth On the other door was lies Which one should I enter through I really must decide The door ____ lies had lots of flower Growing round outside But looking closer noticed it was crumbling inside The door ____ truth was very plain But stood up very strong And when I entered through it's door I knew I wasn't wrong [Don't flame me for including this long post, folks. It occurs to me that we should be attempting to decipher, or find the sources, for more of the Traffic songs, to fill in some rather gaping holes in the home page, and I'm hoping this will light a fire under someone here! --BG] 8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8 From: MHargre586@aol.com Date sent: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 12:34:29 -0500 Subject: Re: CD Releases (Review) I'm not very (any!) good at reviewing CDs. But anyway : JIM CAPALDI -OH HOW WE DANCED (EDSEL EDCD 502) From 1971 (8 Tracks). Features most of the "ShootOut" cast, plus Dave Mason & Paul Kossoff on some tracks. Not bad for a debut solo album. "Eve" is a nice ballad, and my favourite track is the traffic-like "Open your heart". JIM CAPALDI -WHALE MEAT AGAIN (EDSEL EDCD 503) From 1974 (7 Tracks). Features not so much Traffic, and no Dave Mason or Paul Kossoff. A bit low-key really. My favourite track is "Summer is Fading", from an original idea of Viv Stanshall. JIM CAPALDI -SHORT CUT DRAW BLOOD (EDSEL EDCD 504) From 1975 ( 9 Tracks). An excellent album from 1 - 9. "Goodbye Love" has echoes of "It's too late", "Boy With a Problem" seems to be about Chris Wood, who plays flute (also Winwood guitar) on the sad closer "Seagull". Rosko Gee and (Oh No!) Reebop turn up with Hawkins/Hood/Beckett etc. The best of the Bunch. COMING IN JANUARY - AIYE KETA (THE THIRD WORLD) - STAY TUNED!!! (PS : A Traffic symbol has been scanned.) Bye Mike Hargreaves. 9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9*9 From: email@example.com Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 08:07:48 -0700 Subject: List housekeeping I'd like to let everyone know that we got our first Subscriber from Turkey! This is our first from any Middle-Eastern country. Also, not to be disrespectful or anything, but I had to laugh, because the letter from him came on Thanksgiving! Two more of our Subscribers have home pages now, so I decided to post the links on the SP web-site. If you've forgotten where that is, it's http://www.azstarnet.com/~bobbieg/maillist.htm More web-site stuff: the format for past volumes, by volume, has been changed, not because it's going to be any easier for you to read, but because it'll be more easily maintained by me. (Lazy person ...) And the ever-helpful Steve Smith has completed the By-Topic section, up to volume 42. The rest should follow shortly. This will make it easier for you to look up any questions you have before you post them to SP. Feedback on the tee-shirt idea has been 100% favorable. Design work on the logo is progressing, and sometime in the next week or so, I will post them all on the web-site and you can have a chance to vote for your favorite. I don't have a firm time-table on this, but we plan to have the shirts in your hands before the (still-alleged) concert tour this spring and summer. --- Bobbie ------------------------------------------ END OF SMILING PHASES, VOL 45