DIGEST 1, VOLUME 2,  sent Aug 1, 1995

There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this issue:
  1.  Shoot-Out Reaction!
  2.  Traffic, et al.
  3.  Re: Shoot-Out
  4.  Shootout at the Fantasy Factory Poll
  5.  talking back to the night
  6.  My five favorite Traffic Songs
  7.  Far From Home
  8.  old vs. new Traffic
  9.  Five Traffic Favorites, oh, all right, six
10.  Rainbow Concert
11.  Session Work
12.  American "Mr. Fantasy"
13.  for Traffic completists


Subj:	POST:Shoot-Out Reaction!
Date:	95-07-26 14:30:59 EDT
From:	tpreston@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (Trev Preston)

     I too have mixed feelings about Shoot-out.  I don't want to rip it up
because it's a TRAFFIC album :) The title track/roll right stones are
probably the better of a weak lot. Actually right now I'm listening to a lotof
When The Eagle Flies.  Certainly a return to classic TRAFFIC after Shoot-Out
and On the Road.............Great album!

-----------------Trevor Preston(tpreston@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca)-------

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Subj:	Traffic, et al.
Date:	95-07-26 18:03:48 EDT
From:	gjh2j@faraday.clas.virginia.edu (Jeff Hawkins)

_Shoot Out at the Fantasy Factory_ impresses me because of the
story behind it. All the tracks were written and recorded in
about a week.  While it's not as solid as _Mr. Fantasy_ or _John
Barleycorn_ it is a must, mainly due to the title track and "Roll
Right Stones".

As for old traffic vs new traffic.....I offer a compromise.  If
winwood would take not only himself and Capaldi, but also
Bramlett, Reyes, MacElvoy, and Gee in with him to help with the
recording..it would be even better.  Winwood thinks he has to do
too much, when he has solid musicians around him.  If he wants to
revive Traffic completely...this is how to do it.

I want to see a Blind Faith reunion myself...of course a new
bassist would have to be found..maybe Entwhistle or John Paul

Jeff..Traffic diehard


Subj:	POST:  Re: Shoot-Out
Date:	95-07-26 20:25:54 EDT
From:	BobbieG101

I have to agree, Winwood fan though I am, Shoot-Out has always been one of
my least favorite.  I think it illustrates how accomplished the members of the
group were as musicians, however.  Listen to the time signature in the final
instrumental part of the title song.  I believe it's in 9/8 time.  How often does
that happen in pop music?  Only one other example comes to mind, Peter
Gabriel's Solsbury Hill, which I believe is in 7/4 time.  Try marching to either
piece and you'll see what I mean - you alternate feet on each downbeat.


Subj:	post: Shootout at the Fantasy Factory Poll
Date:	95-07-27 00:51:56 EDT

My feelings towards "Shoutout at the Fantasy Factory" are similar to Scott's.  I
do not see Shoutout as  one of their better albums but there are moments of
genius on it especially Shootout and Tragic Magic.  But like all Traffic albums
with the exception of the flawless John Barleycorn there are some real
disappointments, and Evening Blue is certainly one of them just as Rainmaker
was before on "Low Spark...."


Subj:	post: talking back to the night
Date:	95-07-27 01:00:48 EDT

  During the last few days I have reacquainted myself with Steve Winwood's
third solo album "Talking Back to the Night".  While this album did not recieve
the critical or commercial attention as "Arc of A Diver" and even Steve
Winwood himself criticized it, I see this album as truely wonderful.  It's really
folk  music, plain and simple, only he has replaced the tired worn sound of an
acoustic guitar with a fresher mix of  synthesizers and keyboards.   I love every
song especially "While There's a Candle Burning", "Big Girls  Walk Away"
and "And I go".  "Talking Back to the Night is Winwood's most overlooked
album and underservedly so.  It  does not have the pop stylings of "Back in The
Highlife" or the instrumental genius of "Refugees of the Heart", what it does
have is  short, simple songs that stay with you well beyond the sound of their
final note.


Subj:	Post  :My five favorite Traffic Songs
Date:	95-07-27 01:02:27 EDT

5)  Who Knows What tommorrow  may bring
4)  Something New
3)  Mr. Fantasy
2)  Freedom Rider
1) Glad


Subj:	POST: Far From Home
Date:	95-07-27 11:15:11 EDT
From:	rhall@eecs.umich.edu (Robert W. Hall)

Regarding the Far From Home reviews (which I enjoyed greatly) and
Bobbie's question--  Old Traffic vs. Current Traffic:  I would have to say
current Traffic.  I suppose I am biased towards post-Traffic Winwood ('77
album->forward), but I enjoy Far From Home immensely.

The style of the Winwood's music on this album is evocative of old Traffic, but
also has strong influences from his '80s-90s solo albums, my favorites of which
are: all of them ;-).  I have particular favorite
solo efforts of his, incl. I Will Be Here (it touches me similiarly to
Holy Ground, very profound and moving) off of 'Refugees..', One More
Morning and The Morning Side from 'Roll With It', and others..

Anyone like Jim Capaldi's 'Some Came Running' album from '88?  It is
excellent, IMHO and of course, Steve is involved..  Another collaboration
album I like is Steve's work on David Gilmour's About Face..

By the way, great to see this mailing list and Scott's web site.

I found a copy of Chris Welch's Winwood Biography  'Roll With It' this
morning at a used bookstore!

Sorry to ramble ;-)
Rob H.


Subj:	Post: old vs. new Traffic
Date:	95-07-27 19:16:21 EDT
From:	RRopek

First, thanks for creating the Digest !

My Question is: Is there truly a new Traffic or was the CD/tour a "one off"?
In the liner notes to "Far From Home" Steve Refers to the "Traffic project" -
which doesn't sound too permanent

What links the old and new Traffic is the rich thematic tones of Celtic
mythlogy, English folk music and living rock n' roll. These underpinnings
made Traffic (even the reconstituted form) great, and as solid as oak - I
hope they stick around for awhile.   Dan


Subj:	POST:  Five Traffic Favorites, oh, all right, six
Date:	95-07-28 13:31:33 EDT
From:	BobbieG101

  My five favorite Traffic songs, in no particular order, are:

Many a Mile to Freedom - I love the chorus ('Then together we flow like the
river, and  together we melt like the snow'), it's so sexy!  Actually all the
lyrics are wonderful - 'Call all my reindeer to graze here, call all my grain
to grow.'  And later - 'Many a thought unanswered, many a tale to tell.'  And
Steve's voice is so understated.

Forty Thousand Headmen - enigmatic lyrics, simple but perfect guitar line,
flute weaving around behind

No Face, No Name, and No Number - Chris Wood's flute always gets to me, but
this is one of the best, very subtle; keyboard kinda harpsichord-y

Withering Tree - I love when Steve's vocal gets all shriek-y ('INTO the arms
of eternity'), and it all seems so unrehearsed and loose

and Low Spark - duh!

Well, okay;  6 - Mr Fantasy - does everyone know by now that it was written
about one of the roadies' dogs?



Subj:	POST: Rainbow Concert
Date:	95-07-29 00:16:13 EDT
From:	stribble@husc.harvard.edu (Scott Tribble)

Just to let you all know, the Rainbow Concert has been re-released, and
there are about 8 new tracks, including Layla, Bottle of Red Wine, etc.
No additional Traffic songs, but it still should be interesting. For
those of you not familiar with the concert, it featured Steve, Jim,
Rebop, and Rick, and a live recording of it was released in 1973 and it
included Presence of the Lord and Pearly Queen.



Subj:	POST:  Session Work
Date:	95-07-31 18:48:42 EDT
From:	BobbieG101

  Here is a list of session work that Steve has participated in.  Most of
this list comes from Chris Welch's book 'Roll With It', some of the rest from
my own collection, and some from what other people have emailed me.

Jimi Hendrix:  Electric Ladyland
                     Cry of Love
Joe Cocker:  With a Little help From My Friends
Gordon Jackson:  Thinking Back
Ginger Baker's Airforce:  (eponymous)
McDonald and Giles:  (eponymous)
Shawn Philips:  Contribution
Leon Russell:  (eponymous)
Howlin' Wolf:  London Sessions
Reg King:   (eponymous)
Rebop Kwaku Baah:  Rebop
Jim Capaldi:  Oh How We Danced
                    Whale Meat Again
                    Short Cut Draw Blood
                    Some Come Running
                    Fierce Heart
Sutherland Brothers:  Lifeboat
Various Artists:  Tommy
Muddy Waters:  London Sessions
                        London Revisited
Blondel:  (eponymous)
Eric Clapton:  Rainbow Concert
Alvin Lee & Mylon Lefevre:  Road to Freedom
John Martyn:  Inside Out
                     One World
Lou Reed:  Berlin
Third World:  Aiye Keta
Viv Stanshall:  Man Opening Umbrellas Ahead
                      Sir Henry At Rawlinson End
                      Teddy Boys Don't Knit
Jade Warrior:  Waves
Fania All-Stars:  Delicate and Jumpy
Toots and the Maytals:  Reggae Got Soul
Stomu Yamashta:  Go
                            Go Live from Paris
Sandy Denny:  Rendezvous
Julie Covington:  (eponymous)
I Jahman:  Haile I Hymn
Marianne Faithfull:  Broken English
                             Dangerous Acquaintances
Gong:  Downwind
George Harrison:  (eponymous)
Talk Talk:  Colour of Spring
Billy Joel:  The Bridge
Dave Mason:  Alone Together
Paul Weller:  Stanley Road
David Gilmour:  About Face
Paul Young:  the song Walk on Bye (I don't know album title yet)
Soundtrack of They Call It an Accident

Have I missed any??


Subj:	POST: American "Mr. Fantasy"
Date:	95-08-01 00:49:48 EDT
From:	BigStar303

I've sung this song many times in various Traffic folders that have come and
gone on AOL, but there may be a new audience here, so I'll throw it out:

*Am I the only one in the world who actually thinks that the American release
of the "Mr. Fantasy" album, despite having nothing to do with the band's
actual wishes, stands head and shoulders above the official British release?
With "Paper Sun" included and "Utterly Simple" lopped off, it has to be
stronger right off the bat. And maybe it's just because I grew up hearing it
this way, but the sequencing makes a lot more sense on the American version.
Hell, I even like the little in-between music bridges.

*Am I the only one who yearns for a CD reissue of this LP in its American

*Am I the only one who actually plunked down $26 for the first edition of the
Original Master Recording CD reissue of the "Mr. Fantasy" album because the
cardboard overlay actually had the American sequencing listed -- only to find
out that someone had screwed up and the CD in fact contained the British


Subj:	POST: for Traffic completists
Date:	95-08-01 00:49:52 EDT
From:	BigStar303

Again, this will be nothing new at all to hard-core fans, but in case there
are any new converts...

The American release of the "Paper Sun" single has a completely different
take of "Giving To You" on the flip. Not a remix, a totally different

The American single of "Rock and Roll Stew" has Part 2 of the same song on
its flip, an extended jam that was lopped off of the album version (anyone
know if this tune has ever appeared unedited in its entirety